All posts by TripleSeven7

Just some more images I noticed we still need:

• Crystal Snail should have an image for when its crystal coating is broken and only the inner gray shell remains. Maybe a sideways image should be uploaded as well, since it, more than other enemies, has a detailed side view.

• All of the cooked foods (Object ID 9500 - 9513) are missing proper pages and standard item images.

• Several of the Sunken Sea scene objects, such as the Whale Skeleton, Abandoned Ship and Sunken Ship, need proper item images so that individual pages can be made for them.

• Likewise, several of the Desert of Beginning scene objects, such as the Mammoth Remains, Hunting Rock, Stone Monument, and Oasis Geysers need proper images as well.

• Relics of Alien Tech also need proper images.

• Several of the Trees, Potted Plants and Rocks are missing placed images.

• Maybe some of the enemies with special animations, like the Cavelings and Caveling Brutes, should have those animations uploaded as gifs.

Still Needed from the first post:

• Normal Water and Sea Water, as seen on the map page, still share the same image. One of these (normal water I believe) needs a proper image.

• The Core should have a proper Valentines Day image for main gallery at the top.

• Non gif for the spirit merchant

• Omoroth tornadoes

• Azeos beams

• Ra-Akar ancient orb (and the new player summoned one)

• Resized images for the lit floors and painted floor. the images on these pages are not consistently sized.

• Customization options (hair style, etc.) for characters

The drop info for the seasonal figures seems to be incorrect.

Mimite Holiday drop info... is this correct?

What are these missing files exactly? Are these in-game file names?

I've been keeping note of certain items/objects that need better images on this wiki. While I could take screenshots of some of the images requested below, it would be great if someone could rip these from the game files for better quality. Here is what image are needed:

• Omoroth tornadoes

• Azeos beams

• Ra-Akar ancient orb

• Ore deposits inside walls... not sure if these are singular images in the files, and they might need to be screenshotted anyway.

• Placed trees (the trees with missing images can be seen here. same for the next several requests below.)

• Placed bushes

• Placed potted plants

• Placed rocks

• Placed Stone and Festive tables

• Many chairs/stools are missing placed images

• Full pictures for the broken core sentry

• Better single space water and lava images in THIS style.

• Non gif for the spirit merchant

• Gif for the souls would be nice

• Resized images for the lit floors and painted floor. the images on these pages are not consistently sized

• Larger image for the valentines day state for the core. The page's main image can be switched between the not activated and started state: being able to switch to the valentines state would be nice as well.

• Several of the newly added unavailable items on the placements page need images added

• Some Breakables don't have images for all of their variations.

• Customization options (hair style, etc.) for characters

• Golden crop plants

The improved home page is so much nicer than it was previously, but I think it could include a bit more information. I've been working towards expanding the home page by filling out certain item categories and creating new parent pages; I still have a ways to go but I figured I'd share my plans to see if the rest of the editors agree with the changes, or have an input.

Currently, the home page has 4 main categories: Items, Mechanics, Biomes, Bosses and NPCs. (excluding "The Game" section at the top). In my opinion, this should be adjusted to the following: Items, Placements, Ecosystem, Biomes, Skills, Mechanics, Bosses. These Categories would each include the following:

Items

• Tools

• Weapons

• Armor

• Accessories

• Pets

• Food

• Consumables

• Materials

• Valuables

• Instruments

• Vehicles

Placements (or Environment?)

• Walls

• Ground

• Material type

• Liquid

• Pit

• Bridges

• Floors

• Workbenches/Crafting Stations

• Electronics

• Chests

• Light sources

• Decorative

• Natural (plants, rocks, pit decoration, garden plants)

• Furniture

• Figurines

Ecosystem

• Enemies

• Critters

• Cattles

• NPCs

• Vendors

• Factions

Biomes

• Main Biomes

• Sub-Biomes

Skills

• Mining

• Running

• Melee Combat

• Vitality

• Crafting

• Range Combat

• Gardening

• Fishing

• Cooking

Mechanics

• Achievements

• Character

• Controls

• Dedicated server

• Lighting

• Map

• Painting

• Permanent upgrades (Health, souls, etc.)

• Rarity

• Seasonal Events

• Settings

• Soundtrack

• Technical (world generation, mob spawning, etc.)

Bosses

• Progress Bosses

• Optional Bosses (event bosses?)

With these changes, many more topics could be easily included, making the wiki more intuitive to search through.

I think using the Terraria Wiki as something of a guide would be helpful: that game already deals with many MANY different items and categories, and I think the wiki does a fairly good job of making the pages easy to navigate.

Several notes -

• Not all of these pages even exist yet. Many of them do exist but not yet in a complete or satisfying way. I'm working on these pages now.

• Many of these uncreated page names could be changed, for example, pit objects and water objects should probably be categorized together, but I've still not decided on a great unifying page name yet, as the game itself doesn't really provide one.

• Several existing pages should have their named change. Farming is called "gardening" in game, but this wiki page calls it farming.

• Several pages need to either be expanded, or split. For example, the existing "World" page only describes the world modes, but it should either be expanded to talk about more world features, such as generation, unique scenes and biomes, or it should be renamed to "world creation" or something similar to allow for a world page dedicated to the actual world generation... at least, that's what makes sense to me. Same thing for the character page, but I've already begun to expand that one.

• It sounds like Walls and grounds will possibly either become a single item in the future, or will be easily exchangeable, so maybe having separate main page in the Placement section is not wise... I guess it doesn't matter right now. I did include a "Material Type" item, which could be used for lumping different material applications together (dirt wall and dirt ground under "dirt", Sand walls, Sand ground and maybe even glass under "sand", iron armor, weapons and tools under "iron" etc.) This would include more than placement items like walls and grounds however.

Expanding on other thoughts-

• The "Natural" page, which does not yet exist, (though I'm actively working towards this one) could, in my opinion, be categorized either in the Placements section or Ecosystem section. some of the items would lean more towards decoration even though they are plants (such as trees) as they don't really have any effect on the world around the; however, others, such as pit objects and gardening plants, naturally generate over time, or are interacted with by cattle. I could go either way on this one; the game sort of suggests these go into more of a placements category, but the human side of me look at a tree or bush in -game and thinks ecosystem.

• The Technical page could be a parent page to topics like spawning mechanics/summoning, in addition to other things, however Spawning mechanics is probably a large enough topic to be on its own, and could easily go into the general "mechanics" category or even the Ecosystem category.

• Factions could probably go in either Ecosystem or Mechanics.

• Due to the existence of certain vendors (think Vending Machine) in the game that are not technically NPCs, I think a separate page for Vendors, or at least Economy, in addition to NPCs would be helpful, even if there is a large amount of overlap. Also, I, and I think a lot of people, consider the Spirit Merchant to be an NPC, even if it technically is not. We also have the Little Helperling crafting station that appears to be NPCs, but really is not, as well. Should function be prioritized over appearance, or would it be helpful if we categorized these together? I guess this is a similar thought to my "are plants decoration or part of the ecosystem" pondering...

• Both the Accessories and Consumables pages could probably be broken up a bit more at this point. Potions and Explosives, for example, are so different I don't think they should be lumped together. Off-hand has enough subcategories of its own without being lumped together with Rings and such, I think that page could get broken up a bit more too. Some of the "Casting Items" could probably just be put into the Material section as well (Thread of Fate and Crystal Skull Shard for example.) These are essentially just materials that have a slightly higher function.

• What this wiki currently lacks the most are pages in-between large categories (like the Placements page) and individual items. (like the Wood Table) Pages that list only 'tables' or 'offhands' etc. would make navigation easier I think.

Thoughts? I talked about a lot here, but this is sort of my intended direction moving forward. I certainly don't have seniority here, so let me know if any of these changes are undesirable. Input would be appreciated. (as would help!) I'll be making an image request post at some point: there are several images that I need that would be of better quality if they are taken directly from the game files, which I am currently unable to do.

Does anyone know what fishing level each body of water requires for the player to be able to fish in them? I'm not finding information on it anywhere and it would be useful to add.

The image for generic water is of sea water. Is anyone able to get an image of normal water in the style of the others on this wiki? (Sea, Larve Hive, Mold) Could I also get an image like this for lava too?

Several of the paintable objects (Chests, Lit Floors and Paintable Floors) have images that are not sizing correctly (primarily seems to be images for the four new colors) does anyone know how to correct this? I'm not seeing anything wrong with the template page, so maybe the images themselves need to be adjusted?

On a similar note, the Decorative Torches have inconsistent images. (some being the item image and others being the placed object image) These should probably be unified into one or the other; however, having both images viewable probably wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Festive lights do not have images for each paint color, and several paint colors for the lamp light sources still need images (again, the four new paint colors) I'll try to get to some of these myself at some point unless someone uploads them before I can.

Also, I noticed that there is no information on the difference in speed between the two minecarts. (like the Boats and Go-Karts have) Does anyone know what it is?

In my opinion, the paint brushes, vehicles and instruments should all be broken out of the Tools page and sorted into their own individual pages. These categories aren't necessarily "tools" in how they are used, especially when compared with the other items on the list. They are all growing categories though, and should still be listed under the Items section in the table of contents on the home page: just as separate articles.

Minecarts should be listed along with boats and go-karts if this change were made.

Additionally, there is already a paint brush page linked under the "gameplay section, but paint brushes aren't really a gameplay mechanic: they are an item category. "Painting" could be link in the gameplay section, but either the page should be renamed and a separate page be made for the paint brushes, or it should simply be recategorized under the Items section.

Would these changes be welcome, or should I leave it as is? I have found myself looking for these specific links on the home page many times before learning they had been sorted into the tools page, so I personally would find this change to be more intuitive, but maybe that's just me.